Have you ever seen Clark’s segment from the film destricted? It’s called Impaled, it’s Clark just sitting in a small office space interviewing young people (mostly boys late teens early twenties) about their pornography habits, then he chooses one of the boys and shoots an unsimulated sex scene with him and a woman he brings in. It’s non narrative, kind of is a distillation of Clark’s more fetishy side. I wrote a thing last year about Clark and the type of boys he often featured, Uncensored New York paid me for it but never ran it. Kids does have the cheesy moralism but the look of it is pure Clark, sweaty kids, drugs and stupid violence. Another Day in Paradise is maybe his most underrated movie.
Matt, great comment, thank you. I have not seen destricted, but having read your description, now I need to! Sorry "Uncensored" New York appear to have done just that ... hope you find a home for it soon!
🌟 I have not purchased this Umbrella label bluray yet.. but I still don't believe this is the Full UNCUT uncensored 1 hr and 55 min version of the movie BULLY that I saw years ago at a film festival. The version I saw had originally come out with unrated 1 hr. 55 min version on DVD in 2001. But was pulled from stores and only the R rated version remained available since then. The version I saw had a scene all the other versions removed. It is when Brad Renfro is having sex with his girlfriend and his bully buddy walks in on them. He proceeds to strip and then he climbs on top of them and begins to anally rape Brad while Brad is still having sex with his girl. That scene seems to have been cut out from all the presently available released versions. I wonder if this Umbrella Label version has this uncut version or it's still the R rated 1hr and 52min version?
I've heard about this version before, would be very interesting to see it in some form such as a deleted scene but the film was released both theatrically and on home video unrated, only the version aired on HBO was R rated. Seeing how that's the case, it was almost certainly cut for time rather then any ratings issues because why else would you cut a scene like that for an Unrated film?
There's a particularly vicious racist joke in the regular version that is completely excised in the unrated. Life is sometimes too short to get your head around all of this ;)
I know which scene you mean. This version was never released into theatrical or home entertainment releases, it was shown only on festivals at the start.
I think I might have remembered some anal rape, but it is true that festival screenings sometimes include scenes that don't make it to the final cut. I saw Process (2005?) at the Edinburgh Film Festival and Beatrice Dalle was clearly bleeding from the anal rape scene and that was nowhere to be seen in the finished movie. Would still recommend the Umbrella edition though.
Also from what I've gathered online, Process never had an official release outside of the initial festival screenings and the only copy you can find nowadays is a heavily degraded screen recording from a mac with timecode burned onto it. I haven't seen it due to how hard it is to find but I'm shocked that there's another piece of lost material from the film.
Yes Process is a great lost film, especially in it's unexpurgated form (the time-coded version is cut). Especially weird it's unreleased as the soundtrack was officially released.
Definitely the best Clarke film, I haven’t seen it for over 20 years, since my DVD was nicked in a burglary but reading this has rekindled my interest, so I think I will have to shell out… Nice writing!
Fuck it, just ordered it up from Grindhouse --- along with Korine's "Trash Humpers" (sorry), which is essentially the same "plot" as "Julien Donkey-Boy," just weirder for no particular reason, which is the kind of self-indulgence that works in spots. The Florida socio-economic underbelly is an endlessly fascinating netherworld hiding in plain sight --- whole different kind of film, but I think Sean Baker captured the essence of it pretty well with "The Florida Project," which is overhyped by the art-film crowd, to be sure, but still worth a watch even if it's nowhere near the heights he hit with "Tangerine." Clark's one of a kind, though, no denying it, and yeah, there's no way "Bully" would get made today.
L. Scott Jose scratches the surface of the economic forces at play -- a crucial aspect nearly always neglected in true crime narratives, aside from some minor guff about reduced chances or limited horizons. I'll check out the Sean Baker films you mention, cheers. And good for you supporting Grindhouse. I recommend his Sunday night show on YT. Especially if, aside from boutique Blu-ray releases, you have any interest in Christian heavy rock. Or LIKE the fact that HE likes it. Which is pretty much my standard defence for anything!
Baker's an interesting filmmaker, "The Florida Project" is set in one of those seedy roadside motels people live in down there, "Tangerine" is about --- and stars --- trans hookers on Hollywood Boulevard, it's got a touch of "Gummo" to it in that apart from a Clu Gulager cameo it's all "real people" rather than actors, fortunately that's where the comparisons end because it has an actual (gasp) narrative structure and Baker's "unprofessional" cast can actually act. Side note, for mind-melting Christian "art," Grindhouse also stocks the Ormond Family box set from Indicator that Jimmy McDonough put together, From Hollywood To Heaven : The Lost And Saved Films Of The Ormond Family," totally insane "Christ-sploitation" from back before the QAnon/Alex Jones crowd made essentially the same kind of stuff a boring billion-dollar cottage industry, and far (and I do mean FAR) weirder than anything any self-consciously "outre" film school grad ever cranked out.
I was slightly underwhelmed when I saw it on video back then, as I thought it was more "mainstream" than Ken Park, which I had seen earlier (at a film festival with no prior warning). Been looking for it, though.....
Have you ever seen Clark’s segment from the film destricted? It’s called Impaled, it’s Clark just sitting in a small office space interviewing young people (mostly boys late teens early twenties) about their pornography habits, then he chooses one of the boys and shoots an unsimulated sex scene with him and a woman he brings in. It’s non narrative, kind of is a distillation of Clark’s more fetishy side. I wrote a thing last year about Clark and the type of boys he often featured, Uncensored New York paid me for it but never ran it. Kids does have the cheesy moralism but the look of it is pure Clark, sweaty kids, drugs and stupid violence. Another Day in Paradise is maybe his most underrated movie.
Matt, great comment, thank you. I have not seen destricted, but having read your description, now I need to! Sorry "Uncensored" New York appear to have done just that ... hope you find a home for it soon!
indeed, Clark's "Destricted" segment is a beautiful thing....
🌟 I have not purchased this Umbrella label bluray yet.. but I still don't believe this is the Full UNCUT uncensored 1 hr and 55 min version of the movie BULLY that I saw years ago at a film festival. The version I saw had originally come out with unrated 1 hr. 55 min version on DVD in 2001. But was pulled from stores and only the R rated version remained available since then. The version I saw had a scene all the other versions removed. It is when Brad Renfro is having sex with his girlfriend and his bully buddy walks in on them. He proceeds to strip and then he climbs on top of them and begins to anally rape Brad while Brad is still having sex with his girl. That scene seems to have been cut out from all the presently available released versions. I wonder if this Umbrella Label version has this uncut version or it's still the R rated 1hr and 52min version?
I've heard about this version before, would be very interesting to see it in some form such as a deleted scene but the film was released both theatrically and on home video unrated, only the version aired on HBO was R rated. Seeing how that's the case, it was almost certainly cut for time rather then any ratings issues because why else would you cut a scene like that for an Unrated film?
There's a particularly vicious racist joke in the regular version that is completely excised in the unrated. Life is sometimes too short to get your head around all of this ;)
I know which scene you mean. This version was never released into theatrical or home entertainment releases, it was shown only on festivals at the start.
I think I might have remembered some anal rape, but it is true that festival screenings sometimes include scenes that don't make it to the final cut. I saw Process (2005?) at the Edinburgh Film Festival and Beatrice Dalle was clearly bleeding from the anal rape scene and that was nowhere to be seen in the finished movie. Would still recommend the Umbrella edition though.
Also from what I've gathered online, Process never had an official release outside of the initial festival screenings and the only copy you can find nowadays is a heavily degraded screen recording from a mac with timecode burned onto it. I haven't seen it due to how hard it is to find but I'm shocked that there's another piece of lost material from the film.
Yes Process is a great lost film, especially in it's unexpurgated form (the time-coded version is cut). Especially weird it's unreleased as the soundtrack was officially released.
Definitely the best Clarke film, I haven’t seen it for over 20 years, since my DVD was nicked in a burglary but reading this has rekindled my interest, so I think I will have to shell out… Nice writing!
Thanks for the kind words, and enjoy the show.
I wanted to move to Florida after watching it.
Fuck it, just ordered it up from Grindhouse --- along with Korine's "Trash Humpers" (sorry), which is essentially the same "plot" as "Julien Donkey-Boy," just weirder for no particular reason, which is the kind of self-indulgence that works in spots. The Florida socio-economic underbelly is an endlessly fascinating netherworld hiding in plain sight --- whole different kind of film, but I think Sean Baker captured the essence of it pretty well with "The Florida Project," which is overhyped by the art-film crowd, to be sure, but still worth a watch even if it's nowhere near the heights he hit with "Tangerine." Clark's one of a kind, though, no denying it, and yeah, there's no way "Bully" would get made today.
L. Scott Jose scratches the surface of the economic forces at play -- a crucial aspect nearly always neglected in true crime narratives, aside from some minor guff about reduced chances or limited horizons. I'll check out the Sean Baker films you mention, cheers. And good for you supporting Grindhouse. I recommend his Sunday night show on YT. Especially if, aside from boutique Blu-ray releases, you have any interest in Christian heavy rock. Or LIKE the fact that HE likes it. Which is pretty much my standard defence for anything!
Baker's an interesting filmmaker, "The Florida Project" is set in one of those seedy roadside motels people live in down there, "Tangerine" is about --- and stars --- trans hookers on Hollywood Boulevard, it's got a touch of "Gummo" to it in that apart from a Clu Gulager cameo it's all "real people" rather than actors, fortunately that's where the comparisons end because it has an actual (gasp) narrative structure and Baker's "unprofessional" cast can actually act. Side note, for mind-melting Christian "art," Grindhouse also stocks the Ormond Family box set from Indicator that Jimmy McDonough put together, From Hollywood To Heaven : The Lost And Saved Films Of The Ormond Family," totally insane "Christ-sploitation" from back before the QAnon/Alex Jones crowd made essentially the same kind of stuff a boring billion-dollar cottage industry, and far (and I do mean FAR) weirder than anything any self-consciously "outre" film school grad ever cranked out.
Top recommendations and comments, thank you. My credit card will take a well-deserved hammering.
I was slightly underwhelmed when I saw it on video back then, as I thought it was more "mainstream" than Ken Park, which I had seen earlier (at a film festival with no prior warning). Been looking for it, though.....